7 of 10 Did Not Happen Before The End of 2010; And The Passage Did Not Happen Before 2012, Either

As Zetatalk has said time and again, they do not give out timeframes or deadlines because the calculations are complex and change from minute to minute. Their viewpoint is that giving out a date would do more harm than good because it would most likely create useless panic and damage the credibility of the data intended to help people with. However, it appears Nancy Lieder knows better these days.

UPDATE 12/13/10 (in response to Lieder claiming the 7 will now begin by the end of 2010): Earlier ZT does not say anything about "the 7 will begin by the end of 2010." The language is clear. The 7 of 10 would happen by the end of 2010. "Beginning to happen" is new, to make excuses for a failed prediction.

UPDATE 12/17/10: Well, the backpedaling has begun. The latest holey writ (and the writ keeps getting holey-er, indeed) states: "The 7 of 10 will unfold but not as expected by many. It will not be a dramatic announcement on the news, as the establishment is ready for this, due to the extensive discussions." http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue218.htm.

Now, let's look at some fair usage quotes from ZetaTalk, for the purpose of discussion, critique, and education:

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/12ju2010.htm
"This ZetaTalk [referring to the Christmas Hammer], written in late December, 2007 indeed describes what the holographic presentation that Nancy attended in November, 2009 was intending to relay. We have confirmed that some of these incidents will be part of a movement to the 7 of 10 stage, and by the end of 2010."

http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta571.htm (04/03/2010)
Q: What will be the biggest event of the year 2010 A.D?
ZT: One of the events that was presented in the holographic presentation that Nancy attended last November will surely occur. Just what else might occur, or which of these events we are referring to, we cannot say."

http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue179.htm
ZetaTalk Response 3/27/2010: The holographic presentation that Nancy attended last November included a rolling of the S American Plate with mountain building in the Andes and crushing of a part of the Caribbean Plate during this roll. We are not allowed to state when such a process might start, though there is much speculation because of the Chile quake and subsequent quakes that are running up and down the Andes, and restlessness in the Caribbean. Beyond the fact that we have confirmed this holographic presentation to be valid [see below about things not being set in stone], in the steps it relayed, and beyond stating that to move to a 7 of 10 one or more of these described catastrophe's must happen, we can say no more.

http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue175.htm
ZetaTalk Comment 2/27/2010: As we mentioned during past chats, there will be no question when the Earth has arrived at a 7. This will not be a single quake or a series of quakes, it will be plate movements that are strong enough, significant enough, that shock would be the word to use in describing the reaction of the populace.

Can you see the obvious contradiction between current Nancy/ZT and prior ZetaTalk? I will explain so no one misunderstands:

The movement to a "7 of 10" on the Nancy/ZT scale involves the movement of tectonic plates. For a tectonic plate to move, the news outlets won't be needed. Cities and coastlines will disappear, oceans will roll over islands, land masses will rise, others will sink, families, friends, and businesses will be burning the phone lines and the internet with the news, you get the idea. There is no way an event of this magnitude could be covered up. And if, for the sake of argument, the PTB were able to hide the fact a tectonic plate moved, how then would the world be "shocked"?

This is backpedaling in the extreme, playing on hazy memories and/or laziness in verifying prior ZT. The language in prior Zetatalk is abundantly clear. There were no wriggle words like "around" the end of 2010 or that "the PTB will hide the fact of a tectonic plate shifting," as you can see for yourself above.

And the bald-faced spin she's putting on it now. How, pray tell, would the movement to a "7" not be as "expected by many" when it was clearly stated, in no uncertain terms, that this event would be:

  • by the end of 2010 (a firm date that means "no later than the end of 2010." It does not include time in 2011 otherwise the phrase would have been "around the end of 2010" and/or "early 2011)

  • one or more (you can't hide one plate shifting, imagine trying to hide 2 or more, but at least one would happen, not "start to happen")

  • of the events depicted in the [holographic] presentation (which was all about tectonic plates shifting...major, major events)

  • SHOCKING the world (meaning the world "WILL BE SHOCKED"...not "NOT SHOCKED because the PTB-controlled news media is gagged from talking about it."

  • You can see what Nancy's ZT said THEN and what she is saying NOW are clearly contradictory. Past ZT did not say it was subject to change. The language was an emphatic, focused, statement with no modifiers that would have changed the meaning from certainty to maybe. The words were plain, common, English words that did not leave anything open to doubt or other interpretation. No double entendres. No guessing at what the language might be saying. It was plain and clear. And that is how we ALL interpreted the plain, common meaning of the words. Did anyone here who read it back then interpret it any differently or have any doubts as to what was being said?

    Now, to state the obvious...if Nancy/ZT says black is black and later she does an about-face and claims that we all misunderstood and that black is really white, how can anyone ever again believe anything that comes out of her mouth? If you do, you are a fool. If she is allowed to get away with this, she can say whatever she wishes, erase the blackboard and rewrite history.

    For example, "It's going to rain tomorrow, no doubt about it." Tomorrow comes. You wear your raincoat and take your umbrella. The sun is out all day long. No rain. So then you question the weatherman, who says, "You, the audience, misunderstood. What was meant was that tomorrow would begin a period of time in which rain could start developing."

    How could anyone have gotten the revised meaning from the first statement? You couldn't because it didn't say that. And how long would people listen to a weather forecaster like that? Not long because the incorrect information caused you to act inappropriately (in this case by dressing for rain when there was no rain after being told that it would rain for sure). Bottom line, this means that her utterances are absolutely worthless and a waste of time.

    But, let's give credit where credit is due. She's a showman, akin to the traveling shows of the '20s and '30s...smoke and mirrors and pony shows. All show, no substance. However, her fantasy did its intended job of creating fear and interest. It scared people. It fascinated people. It drew people in to hang on her coattails for more words of wisdom from the Great Oracle. She had an audience, at least for a little while longer.

    But now it's time to pay the piper for another Great White Lie. This backpedaling means she already knew "7" wasn't going to happen by the end of 2010 and she was trying to do damage control. If she truly cared about her followers, she could at least have the decency to tell them the truth.

    ZT states that the future isn't written in stone. http://www.zetatalk.com/transfor/t19.htm (09/15/1999).
    "We will reiterate here that the future is not written, and such visions are always just possible scenarios." Nancy is relying exclusively on her alleged holographic vision she had in 2009, when in 1999 Zetatalk said visions were just possible scenarios." It's apparent that she forgets what she's written, which shows it's not new Zetatalk she's receiving.

    http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue188.htm
    "Throughout 2009 and into 2010 we have remained at a 6, but what will constitute a 7 of 10 has been well laid out within ZetaTalk."

    As for the multiple statements that the passage/pole shift would happen before 2012, that has all changed now, too. "ZetaTalk Admission 7/11/2009: We are not allowed to give a date. In that stating "before 2012" is in a manner of speaking "giving a date", this should be taken with a grain of salt. Nonetheless, we are advising people, as we have since the start of ZetaTalk, to take action, not to wait. Get your ass prepared, and stop thinking of the exact date! That's our message to you." http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue271.htm. So, the common man has been strung along for nine long years, with no end in sight.

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